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All-Wings Falcon flexible noseless endurance saddle
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With April Fools firmly behind us, we can get back to the unconventional but totally real gadgets we turned over in Taipei. As far as non-traditional saddles go, this All-Wings Falcon design possibly takes the cake, combining a shortened version of a normal bent saddle rail with a saddle top made out of a single piece of incredibly flexible engineered plastic…

All-Wings Falcon flexible noseless endurance saddle

All-Wings Falcon flexible noseless endurance saddle

The All-Wings Falcon pares down saddle design to the bare essential, support for your sit bones, while shedding everything else deemed unnecessary. The result is a saddle that looks unlike pretty much anything else we’ve seen strapped to the top of a seatpost, and promises all-day, pressure-free comfort especially geared toward ultra-endurance cyclists.

All-Wings Falcon flexible noseless endurance saddleMany saddles attempt to relieve perineum pressure issues with a central relief channel or cutout, but even that only really works while you stay seated in the ideal position on the saddle and pressure from the nose changes depending on shifting hand positions on the bar or even pedaling up vs. down hill.

So that’s why designer Vincent Tseng completely eliminated the saddle nose in his patented desfgn, leaving just two supportive wings with a deep central channel in the middle.

All-Wings Falcon flexible noseless endurance saddle

What makes the All-Wings Falcon saddle actually work is a flexible & virtually unbreakable BASF engineered nylon wing that flexes between four contact points with the single looped tubular chromoly rail.

The bulk of the rider’s weight seems to be supported by the sit bones just inside of the outer rail position where the saddle offers plenty of support with just a small amount of flex.

Then the outer extension of the wings help distribute more of your weight across a wider area of the saddle, and gives you something stable to push against (since you are missing the stability you often get from having a saddle nose between your legs.)

All-Wings Falcon flexible noseless endurance saddle

While weight is transferred into the top of the saddle, the sloped front edges sits against the back of the upper thighs, comfortably flexing as you pedal. From a few minutes trying it out myself, the feeling of sitting & pedaling on the saddle is quite different, but offers a surprising feel of stability even without a nose for the saddle.

The curved forward shape of the Falcon also makes it ideal for varying you position on the bike. You can’t move front-to-back like on a conventional saddle, but you essentially maintain the same level of comfort whether on the tops or in the drops, as you pivot forward and nothing is in between your legs to add any pressure points. That also makes it comfortable to slightly rotate your weight forward or back on the arc of the wings’ top whether you shift your weight forward or back from steep climbing to steep descents. No more uncomfortably sitting on the nose of a saddle to get up the steepest climbs.

All-Wings Falcon flexible noseless endurance saddle

With its unconventional design, the Falcon saddle is unsurprisingly lightweight even without exotic materials. All-Wings claims a weight of 207g, but it tipped our scales <200g. The Falcon is 300mm wide overall to give support across your entire butt, and is 70mm tall & 140mm long overall from the tip of the rails to the wings’ back. The extended orientation of the tubular steel rails essentially mimics the sit bone position of a conventional saddle, so you shouldn’t need to change seatpost offset, and the rails themselves allow a relatively normal amount of fore-aft saddle adjustment.

All-Wings Falcon flexible noseless endurance saddle

The All-Wings Falcon saddle was entirely designed & is produced in Taiwan. It retails for $130, probably most easily found shopping on Amazon. The Falcon has a max 100kg/220lb rider weight, and is available in six colors: two  black versions, white, dark red, yellow & celeste.

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Steve
Steve
4 years ago

It does look a little odd, but the Amazon listing shows this is their 2016 model. Anything new in the last three years?

Industry Veteran
Industry Veteran
4 years ago

Nose-less saddles are totally dangerous! You’ve been relying on the nose of your saddle to steer and to save yourself from a top tube hit. If you try riding without one, do so gently, like in a flat parking lot before you nicely decline to purchase it. If they worked, we would already be using them. And never ride off-road with anything like this!!

Tim Tucker
Tim Tucker
4 years ago

Not sure why you’d suggest not riding off-road or relying on saddle for steering — most advice I’ve seen for mountain bike riding is to get off the saddle and rely on body positioning to steer. Using a dropper post, there’s isn’t much contact with the saddle other than riding on straight, flat terrain.

This looks somewhat similar to the Nexride noseless saddle + Rinsten spring clone combo I ride with — with the low standover on most modern mountain bikes, the risk of a top tube hit is pretty much non-existent. Fore / aft positioning and reach do take some adjustment to get the feel right vs. a regular saddle, but I’ve found it to be far more comfortable.

Phil Milburn
4 years ago

Completely agree. I briefly used something similar to this called a Moon Saddle and the handling of my bike was precarious to put it mildly – especially when banking into corners. Went back to my Brooks very quickly.

Kwasna_wisnia
Kwasna_wisnia
4 years ago
Reply to  Phil Milburn

So you come back to most overrated and overpriced company?

-s
-s
4 years ago

No off road?! What happens when you use a dropper post then? No saddle in the way to push against.

CoffeeAddikkt
4 years ago
Reply to  -s

Except when you lean your bike in a corner it is rarely the frame you shove your knee into, I’m with industry veteran on this, the saddle nose is used all the time to make your body position effective.

Maus Haus
Maus Haus
4 years ago

Two obvious issues.
1. Doing push up on the bar constantly w no fore/aft support
2. Getting off the back of the saddle on downhills

Tim Tucker
Tim Tucker
4 years ago
Reply to  Maus Haus

From my personal experience riding with a noseless saddle (a Nexride):
1. Fore / aft & tilt of the saddle may need some adjustment, but you can still balance things out to have an even distribution of weight split between bars / pedals / saddle
2. A dropper post works great when you need the saddle out of the way

Mircea Andrei Ghinea
Mircea Andrei Ghinea
4 years ago

by looking at their video, looks like the glutes and hamstrings are inhibited.

bryan
bryan
4 years ago

These are surprisingly heavy for being half a saddle with no padding.

coreying
coreying
4 years ago
Reply to  bryan

Yeah agreed. The Bontrager Montrose Pro on my bike weighs 167g to 172g and doesn’t have a weight limit like this Falcon. Even Bontrager’s very expensive XXX saddle which weighs only 68g (1/3 the weight of the Falcon) still has no weight limit!

Bruce Ingram
Bruce Ingram
4 years ago

I am always surprised what theorised rubbish people write about something new like this. Surely one should try these things before commenting and it appears people are happy after doing long rides.

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blahblahblah
4 years ago

add s works and Peter Sagan and rake in the cash

RED
RED
4 years ago

Looks like a cheese grater…
how quickly would it eat through bib shorts?

Really unfortunate brand name for a saddle… All-Wings.
just makes me think of a certain Procter & Gamble brand.

B Ingram
B Ingram
4 years ago
Reply to  RED

I have used for a year and no impact on shorts tho PSA count decreased hugely after just a couple of weeks.
Let the numb nuts keep riding their old fashioned ones..

Rolf Torgersen
Rolf Torgersen
4 years ago

It really looks lite something that could work for me after my sergery… Would really like to try this…

tomeu porcel
tomeu porcel
1 year ago

como puedo comprarles este sillín??

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